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My Recent Posts · (07/15/08

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SOD is reporting that Raya Meddine (Sabrina) has definitely been let go. SOD says the actress was shocked at her dismissal. An unnamed source is quoted as saying that Eric Braeden was very unhappy with the speed of the relationship between Victor and Sabrina but he has come around to accepting the relationship. The source said no one was really sure why the actress was let go. The source said that TPTB are panicky about the sinking ratings. Sabrina was a newbie who was on 24/7 at a time when the ratings were falling so they decided she was a liability to the show. It was obvious her character was disliked and that viewers hated the relationship between Victor and Sabrina and so they decided to axe her.

In regard to Vincent Irizarry, he has known for some time that he would be let go. But he was hoping that circumstances would change and he would be able to stay with the show.

The source said that the firings of RM and VI does not mean that Nikki and Victor will reconcile, at least not immediately. David and Sabrina will not die at the same time. Sabrina dies as a result of a car crash after the charity ball. David's death is later on and related to another incident. Their will be tremendous fall out from their deaths that will have far reaching ramifications.

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Next week Paul discovers that David's real name is Angelo Serafino and tells Nikki. She tells Paul to back off but then confronts David. He tries to explain it away but Nikki does not buy his explanation and tells him it is over. Paul then finds out that Walter is wanted by the FBI for racketeering and murder and has mob connections. Paul suspects that David is involved with Walter and the mob and tries to prove a connection. Paul also sees a picture of Walter and Ji Min with David in the background. Meanwhile a desperate David decides to take action against Nikki. He spikes her ginger ale with liquid morphine at the party.

My Recent Posts · (07/15/08

"The source said that the firings of RM and VI does not mean that Nikki and Victor will reconcile, at least not immediately. "

Thank goodness for small favors. Those two getting back together after all the ill-will would be too unbelieveable and frustrating for me. It would just about do-in watching the show.

Whether a person likes Sabrina or not, having a new wife for Victor was pretty neat. I'm going to feel very sorry for him when she is killed off.

Liquid morphine for Nikki? Oh no. that could be a dangerous way to go. I guess David is going to try and off her for her money, just like the others. But morphine is detectable in a tox screen. Fortunately, it can be reversed pretty quickly with naloxone (Narcan) if discovered in time.

My Recent Posts · (07/16/08

I see alcohol in Nikki's future....

My Recent Posts · (07/16/08

so David is going to try to kill Nikki with an overdose of morphine...I guess that's one way to get his hands on her money. I agree Kathy, she'll recover and turn to the bottle for comfort.

I'm not sad to see David let go, but I would not have minded Sabrina sticking around a bit longer. She had a positive effect on Victor.....I still hate the dude though.

My Recent Posts · (07/16/08

I think the story would have been more exciting and effective if Sabrina had been around long enough to have the baby. Then, maybe she could die from complications of childbirth or something. Victor could be left with a newborn to take care of. That would be a HUGE undertaking for him. Wiping her out of the story now is minimizing her impact on Victor's life.

My Recent Posts · (07/16/08

It may minimize her impact on Victor's life, but not on Victoria's - who has a long and lengthy history with her. If TIIC did this right, they would have Vikki and Sabrina kiss and make up just before the up-and-coming fatal events. At any rate, I did see on other boards how many hated Sabrina (many calling her Morticia due to her likeness to the Addams Family matriarch) and pegging her as a golddigger (which I NEVER understood, I never saw ANYTHING like that in her portrayal). I myself liked Sabrina, and though the pairing in the beginning was kind of ill-inducing, it did grow on me. I mean, she tried to be a peacemaker, trying to get Victor to look at his kids in a different light. She and Adam are getting along much better these days. So I think her impact will be well beyond what Victor will experience.

Erda, I do agree that Victor and Nikki SHOULD NOT reconcile - not with all the bad blood brought up between them. It would be so unrealistic and unbelievable. But of course, I am sure TIIC will head down that road eventually, sad to say. Well, if they do, They Better NOT BREAK THEM UP AGAIN is all I have to say!

My Recent Posts · (07/16/08

I wonder if viewers would have been more favorable towards Sabrina if she had been a blue-eyed blond like Nikki, or had a little more of her own money. Apparently she had enough to fly all over the world while she was single, so I guess that wasn't enough.

My Recent Posts · (07/17/08

well i am surprised on that one.. i really kind of liked the pairing of them together..sabrina and vic.. i was surprised at how well kay praised her in fact today on the show.. so david yea good of him to be leaving.. ol nikki can do better than him..

so any ways yea that cloe chick she needs to fly the coop.. i dont care for her at all.. i despise her more than amber.. who seems to be really trying hard these days but because of her past mistakes noone is taking her seriously.. oh well..

My Recent Posts · (07/17/08

Chloe is going to be the next big villainess on the show. I suspect she will eventually get ohysically out of control and try to hurt Lily and/or Caine.

My Recent Posts · (07/17/08

My, my, where to begin? i always thought Raya Meddine was out of her league acting wise for this group of seasoned performers. She was never quite believable to me, but she did make my Victor happy as Sabrina so...oh, well. I absolutely don't want Nikki and Victor back together again, unless he reeeaallly wants her.
I hate David Chow and the only thing bearable about him now is he makes Nikki miserable. I thought he would help remove that stick out of her a.. but no such luck. If I have to see her turn her nose up one more time, oh please, transport me to soap opera land for a major smack-down. (Not really. In my real life I am quite peaceable.LOL)

Erda, I don't know if Sabrina had been blond and blue-eyed if that would've made a difference. If Sabrina was blond and blue eyed but still with the same circumstances of how she came into Victor's life and still just as young, I think some of the fans would still be ticked off. JMHO

My Recent Posts · (07/19/08

Sabrina is a combination of Morticia Addams. Cher and Y&R's Lily. But her looks have nothing to do with thr reasons fans didn't take to her. One, she's so young compared to Victor, she makes him look like a pedophile and two, the woman can't act. Her line delivery is so stiff and wooden.

My Recent Posts · (07/21/08

I cringe whenever I see her. I am glad that Sabrina is being written out. I don't think that Victor really needs to get back with Nikki. He has been with Ashely enough as well. He should have a love interest, that is more his age. Perhaps Y&R could do another crossover with B&B and he can get busy with Jackie.

My Recent Posts · (07/21/08

Her delivery was not wooden... that was just her personality, her style. I'm sure she talks the same way in real life.
And she may have been young, but she is obviously an old soul. She had more maturity in her little finger than shallow dipsh!ts like Victoria & Nikki combined.

I'm really disappointed that they're letting her go. The casting department listens to the opinions from a message board here or there? How stupid. Obviously they saw something in her when they hired her, but it's evident they can't think for themselves and are incapable of figuring out what the REAL problems are.
The problems are:

1) Boring snotty Nikki and gross David Chow.
2) Boring Lily and the non-chemistry between her and Cane.
3) Jill doesn't have a storyline.
4) They keep hooking Adam up with unworthy trampy girls, neither of them interesting, especially Paul's daughter.
5) Nicholas Newman / Josh Morrow can't act.
6) No one can stand looking at Sharon's stringy hair everyday.
7) Jack's obsession with Victor is old and he & Sharon make a crappy dull couple.
8. Adrian could be interesting but they just don't know what the hell to do with him.
9) Amber needs to be fired. Not from Restless Style, but the entire show.
10) They're wasting Kevin. They need to get him a little crazy again.
11) Michael Baldwin has a nothing storyline so he's forced to ham it up with the little bit of crappy dialog they give him because he's an ego-maniac.
12) Lauren is a bunch of nothing. She used to be such a little powerhouse in the old days. Again, a waste of talent.
13) Brad isn't interesting to watch unless he's romantically involved with someone. He was damn good in the days when Ashley was giving him the runaround and when he was chasing Sharon.
14) Last but not least -- Phyllis is absolutely intolerable!

Sabrina fired -- THAT MAKES ME MAD!
The powers that be are just like what Sabrina said about Victor's horrible family members -- "They just can't stand to see Victor happy!" I really liked those two together. DAMN!

My Recent Posts · (07/21/08

I couldn't agree more! Sabrina has a maturity to her that the brats will never understand. It figures that as soon as Sabrina's and Victoria's relationship moves into diffcult territory that Victoria wouldn't be able to cope with it. And it really aggravates me that the writers are ending this storyline. We don't have to see S.& V. do the nasty to see the love between them. It's a terrible waste of a storyline.

Phyllis as the meddling mommy has me furious.

I've been wondering if Morrow wants to be fired from the show. His acting is worse than it's ever been. I'm wondering if it's on purpose.

My Recent Posts · (07/21/08

If TIIC actually took seriously the posts on message boards, Tammin Suresucks (nunotColleen) would have been gone a long damn time ago. I still pray it happens - and soon.

Yeah, I was okay with Sabrina, too, even though she is an obstacle to my beloved Nicktor reuniting. I'm okay with Raya Meddine's acting. She is originally from Lebannon and doesn't have a huge amount of acting experience; Y&R is her first really big opportunity in the US.

TIIC dumped her because she's been front and center since February pretty much and the ratings have been taking a nosedive since around that time. And she is quite unpopular on the message boards I frequent but worse than that is the romance with Victor - folks are squicked out by it.

I personally agree about Lily and Cane or rather "Lame" but inexplicably they are a very popular couple. I fail to see the allure of them.

I agree about Heather, too. Although she does seem a little more likable these days since they've actually given her something of a pleasant personality. She has had the most chemistry with Adam but still Vail Bloom's acting is just not very good.

Joshua Morrow absolutely can NOT act!!! He's bloody awful; I'm stunned he has remained on this show but I guess good looks trump acting ability. The next time his contract comes up for renewal, he'd better sign that sucker without complaint because he's got a good thing on Y&R.

I like the Jack and Victor feud! It's a classic, Y&R staple.

I'm sure I'm totally alone in this, but I think that TIIC actually made David Dog Chow more interesting now that his whole world is spiraling out of control. I'm looking forward to the upcoming events that are about to occur.

I really love the Adrian Korbel character but he has just about been totally ruined ever since they stupidly recast Colleen with that inept, poor excuse for an actress Tammin Suresucks. That gal had to have employed the use of the casting couch in order to get and keep her job because it's sure as hell not because she's got talent. I really liked that Adrian wasn't the typical soap hunk and thought Eyal Podell (Adrian) and Adrianne Leon (ex-Colleen) really had smoking hot chemistry. I was looking forward to where their romance was going - and then everything was ruined. CBS SID is reporting that Adrian is still on the canvas so I hope that TIIC can salvage this character and give him an interesting storyline. I still think that he and not Cane, should be the real Philip Chancellor.

I admit it - I like Amber. Please don't stone me to death.

I totally agree with Peri's #10 through #14.

Well, it does seem as though TIIC are trying to correct some of the mistakes of the prior regime. They've got some new writers now, including new co-head writer Hogan Sheffer, emmy-winning head writer for ATWT and most recent from DOOL so let's hope he can help get this show back on track again.

My Recent Posts · (07/21/08

Nah, it's time for Sabrina to scoot. I don't want to see Victor sad but he'll get over it. I wonder who would work for him in a relationship? Certainly none of the females on the show now.
Peri ITA with your list. It is spot on. If TPTB do read message boards, then I hope they read yours.
I just want to add another voice to getting rid of boring Lily and Cane pairing. And they are moving in together? Big Snore! Lily has totally bored down Cane. What happened with him? They originally had him going in a direction that sparked interest and now he's content to play house with Lily? What up with that? Please lose this coupling.

My Recent Posts · (07/22/08

I pretty much agree with your list Peri...except Phylis. Her and Nick are rather boring these days, but I do like Phylis, she is interesting, intense and just a little crazy. I don't like her playing the meddling mother at all. I could not agree more about JM, his acting is awful, I don't remember him being so bad even a couple years ago...I swear he looking to be let go. He's nice eye candy though...those dimples do me in every time.

Lily and Cane ARE the most boring thing going on right now. I wish they'd break them up already. Lily annoys me period...Cane I like, but not with Lily.

I admit it too, I like Amber! at least she's interesting....and her own worst enemy. I actually like her and Daniel together too...I was a little annoyed when they hooked them up, I liked them as friends, but as lovers, they are growing on me.

I hate Cleo....but if she manages to break up Lily and Cane, she can stay.

David Chow is actually getting interesting! I'm enjoying the mystery and am looking forward to the conclusion. I have a feeling he is going to die in the end.

Sabrina is growing on me. Didn't like her at first, but I really like the effect she is having on Victor....when he goes all TGVN on his family, she's there to rein him in and makes him see how "ruthless" he's being. I like that about her, and I was actually looking forward to the baby coming.

My Recent Posts · (07/22/08

Thanks for all your interesting feedbacks to my "List!"

Which reminds me, watching yesterday's episode I totally forgot about one of THE biggest problems/snoozefest couples:

NEIL AND KAREN!

Oh... My... God! Get rid of that Karen and that stupid Mom with her stupid singing kid! WHO CARES!
I don't even know their names that's how much I care about them.
Karen adds absolutely nothing to the show. And for that matter get rid of Devon too! He's useless.

So, lots of people have been "front & center" besides Sabrina, but they decide it's all Sabrina? Idiots!
It's been so refreshing to have someone like Sabrina who doesn't have a bitchy bone in her body. That show is overrun by bitches, it's sickening. They need a bit of balance from cramming snotty bitches like Nikki, Victoria, Phyllis, Chloe, Colleen, Sky, Heather, Amber, Jill, Gloria and yes, even Sharon, down our throats.
I used to really enjoy watching Sabrina stick up for herself and letting all those idiots have it when they'd give her a hard time. It was refreshing to see someone with that mix of nice/goodness with a tough take-no-crap backbone! I used to like how she'd put Adam in his place too, but not seeming bitchy doing it. They're making a big mistake letting her go. I liked hers and Victor's love story. How they could ever reunite him with that shallow Nikki after Sabrina is preposterous!

My Recent Posts · (07/22/08

I actually like Karen!!! She seems like the only one in Genoa City who might actually have a funtioning brain cell or two, although that's questionable now that she moved back for Kneel. I wondered if Karen was brought back because Drucilla is going climb up over the embankment she went over in the next few months and now Kneel has to choose who he wants.

Uh oh, I like Devon too! But he hasn't been utilized properly at all. I wish they'd give him an interesting storyline; this one with Tyra and Little Orphan Shut the Hell Up ain't it. Why in the world they have this child sing constantly is a mystery to me. Who decided that is what people want to see on Y&R day in and day out?

Not just Sabrina but also David Dog Chow. Neither one of these characters have been popular and folks have been begging for them to leave the show practically from their respective debuts. The big drop in ratings since February has really gotten TIIC nervous; Y&R has gone from a 4.0 to a 3.5 in a 6 month period of time - that's really bad and I'm sure William J. Bell is spinning in his grave.

I don't know this for a fact but I don't think that they're going to reunite Victor and Nikki right away either. I have a feeling that Nikki will hook up with Paul and Victor will hook up with Ashley. I don't know if you've noticed but Eileen Davidson isn't in B&B's opening credits anymore - there's speculation that she's returning to Y&R. Seems credible since Ashley has nothing to do on B&B and folks seem to want her back on Y&R.

My Recent Posts · (07/22/08

I really liked the way Sabrina looked beyond herself and told Victor that if he didn't more or less cool it with his take no prisoners reg. his kids, he would regret it. Frankly, Vikki and Nick need to be punished but not kicked out of the will. They are his flesh and blood after all, and he will regret it and eventually be heartbroken over it. I thought it was nice that Sabrina was trying to get him to see that. That's about as nice as I can be about Victor's new wife. Nothing against her, just IMO not a good mix.

Do we really want to see Neil with anyone besides Drusilla? The real Drusilla? I think not. There was something intangibly wonderful about that character. I don't see how Neil could be interested in dull as dishwater Karen
Quite frankly, after Dru left the show the whole Winters clan fell into the black hole of irrelevancy.

And you're right Peri, too many b...s on this show.

My Recent Posts · (07/22/08

Black hole of irrelevancy is right, vg! I'd rather they bring back Dru's sister Olivia at least if they've gotta put someone with Neil. Karen's nice and all, but she has no magnetism, no star quality. She's like parsley, take her away and no one would even notice.

Heidi, I really can't see Nikki with Paul... at all. I'd rather see her suffer with Chow, than languish with boring Paul. When's the last time he had an interesting storyline? Twenty, or thirty years ago? That's because he's another one who's damn lucky he's even employeed as a working actor. He just serves as the background detective that they need around every once in a while and that's all he's basically good for.

And even if it takes them 10 years to reunite Nikki with Victor it will be too soon for me. Her snooty nose in the air looks sicken me. So she pumped some kids out for Victor a lifetime ago, big deal. That love story is long over. I hope Ashley does return just to drive her crazy.

One more thing... I'm ecstatic Victor wrote those ingrate brats out of his will. They both deserved that a long time ago... especially that horrible son who basically hates him. How dare he hate on Victor but live on the ranch. So GLAD he finally booted his sorry ass off his property. I also think Victoria's anger and hatred for Sabrina over falling in love with her dad is a little sick, especially the lengths she's taken it to. I was appalled when she could barely let Sabrina hold her baby. You would think she was letting one of the Manson girls hold her baby for heaven's sake!

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Heidi62	SOD Spoilers	Lead	[-]
Posts: 9131 (07/15/08 10:27) The Equalizer Our Voice of Reason Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None From SNS (originally Toni's): SOD is reporting that Raya Meddine (Sabrina) has definitely been let go. SOD says the actress was shocked at her dismissal. An unnamed source is quoted as saying that Eric Braeden was very unhappy with the speed of the relationship between Victor and Sabrina but he has come around to accepting the relationship. The source said no one was really sure why the actress was let go. The source said that TPTB are panicky about the sinking ratings. Sabrina was a newbie who was on 24/7 at a time when the ratings were falling so they decided she was a liability to the show. It was obvious her character was disliked and that viewers hated the relationship between Victor and Sabrina and so they decided to axe her. In regard to Vincent Irizarry, he has known for some time that he would be let go. But he was hoping that circumstances would change and he would be able to stay with the show. The source said that the firings of RM and VI does not mean that Nikki and Victor will reconcile, at least not immediately. David and Sabrina will not die at the same time. Sabrina dies as a result of a car crash after the charity ball. David's death is later on and related to another incident. Their will be tremendous fall out from their deaths that will have far reaching ramifications. ---------- Next week Paul discovers that David's real name is Angelo Serafino and tells Nikki. She tells Paul to back off but then confronts David. He tries to explain it away but Nikki does not buy his explanation and tells him it is over. Paul then finds out that Walter is wanted by the FBI for racketeering and murder and has mob connections. Paul suspects that David is involved with Walter and the mob and tries to prove a connection. Paul also sees a picture of Walter and Ji Min with David in the background. Meanwhile a desperate David decides to take action against Nikki. He spikes her ginger ale with liquid morphine at the party. Nikki & Victor Forever - you got that? Bring Adrianne Leon Back to Y&R! Sign the petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/121950P/petition.html
Erda		#1	[-]
Posts: 10073 (07/15/08 10:35) The Professor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	"The source said that the firings of RM and VI does not mean that Nikki and Victor will reconcile, at least not immediately. " Thank goodness for small favors. Those two getting back together after all the ill-will would be too unbelieveable and frustrating for me. It would just about do-in watching the show. Whether a person likes Sabrina or not, having a new wife for Victor was pretty neat. I'm going to feel very sorry for him when she is killed off. Liquid morphine for Nikki? Oh no. that could be a dangerous way to go. I guess David is going to try and off her for her money, just like the others. But morphine is detectable in a tox screen. Fortunately, it can be reversed pretty quickly with naloxone (Narcan) if discovered in time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money. ~ Cree Prophecy ~
Kathy		#2	[-]
Posts: 4374 (07/16/08 07:58) Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I see alcohol in Nikki's future.... Enjoying The Spa, sipping on a cocktail...
Dar		#3	[-]
Posts: 6140 (07/16/08 09:11) Finder of Needles in Haystacks Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	so David is going to try to kill Nikki with an overdose of morphine...I guess that's one way to get his hands on her money. I agree Kathy, she'll recover and turn to the bottle for comfort. I'm not sad to see David let go, but I would not have minded Sabrina sticking around a bit longer. She had a positive effect on Victor.....I still hate the dude though. Smile - It's free therapy
Erda		#4	[-]
Posts: 10076 (07/16/08 10:09) The Professor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think the story would have been more exciting and effective if Sabrina had been around long enough to have the baby. Then, maybe she could die from complications of childbirth or something. Victor could be left with a newborn to take care of. That would be a HUGE undertaking for him. Wiping her out of the story now is minimizing her impact on Victor's life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money. ~ Cree Prophecy ~
KayGee62		#5	[-]
Posts: 2799 (07/16/08 11:02) Lovin' The Spa with all my HEART Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It may minimize her impact on Victor's life, but not on Victoria's - who has a long and lengthy history with her. If TIIC did this right, they would have Vikki and Sabrina kiss and make up just before the up-and-coming fatal events. At any rate, I did see on other boards how many hated Sabrina (many calling her Morticia due to her likeness to the Addams Family matriarch) and pegging her as a golddigger (which I NEVER understood, I never saw ANYTHING like that in her portrayal). I myself liked Sabrina, and though the pairing in the beginning was kind of ill-inducing, it did grow on me. I mean, she tried to be a peacemaker, trying to get Victor to look at his kids in a different light. She and Adam are getting along much better these days. So I think her impact will be well beyond what Victor will experience. Erda, I do agree that Victor and Nikki SHOULD NOT reconcile - not with all the bad blood brought up between them. It would be so unrealistic and unbelievable. But of course, I am sure TIIC will head down that road eventually, sad to say. Well, if they do, They Better NOT BREAK THEM UP AGAIN is all I have to say! KayGee aka Kathy from Georgia `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` "You can't change what you don't acknowledge." -- Dr. Phil `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ____ /7__/7__/7_____ \:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::/ ..... Just Cruisin' ..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Erda		#6	[-]
Posts: 10079 (07/16/08 12:50) The Professor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I wonder if viewers would have been more favorable towards Sabrina if she had been a blue-eyed blond like Nikki, or had a little more of her own money. Apparently she had enough to fly all over the world while she was single, so I guess that wasn't enough. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money. ~ Cree Prophecy ~
mskiddie21		#7	[-]
Posts: 2 (07/17/08 07:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	well i am surprised on that one.. i really kind of liked the pairing of them together..sabrina and vic.. i was surprised at how well kay praised her in fact today on the show.. so david yea good of him to be leaving.. ol nikki can do better than him.. so any ways yea that cloe chick she needs to fly the coop.. i dont care for her at all.. i despise her more than amber.. who seems to be really trying hard these days but because of her past mistakes noone is taking her seriously.. oh well..
Erda		#8	[-]
Posts: 10086 (07/17/08 09:35) The Professor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Chloe is going to be the next big villainess on the show. I suspect she will eventually get ohysically out of control and try to hurt Lily and/or Caine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money. ~ Cree Prophecy ~
vicgirl		#9	[-]
Posts: 588 (07/17/08 10:49) Pampered Guest Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	My, my, where to begin? i always thought Raya Meddine was out of her league acting wise for this group of seasoned performers. She was never quite believable to me, but she did make my Victor happy as Sabrina so...oh, well. I absolutely don't want Nikki and Victor back together again, unless he reeeaallly wants her. I hate David Chow and the only thing bearable about him now is he makes Nikki miserable. I thought he would help remove that stick out of her a.. but no such luck. If I have to see her turn her nose up one more time, oh please, transport me to soap opera land for a major smack-down. (Not really. In my real life I am quite peaceable.LOL) Erda, I don't know if Sabrina had been blond and blue-eyed if that would've made a difference. If Sabrina was blond and blue eyed but still with the same circumstances of how she came into Victor's life and still just as young, I think some of the fans would still be ticked off. JMHO "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
portero1974		#10	[-]
Posts: 124 (07/19/08 04:26) Pampered Guest Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Sabrina is a combination of Morticia Addams. Cher and Y&R's Lily. But her looks have nothing to do with thr reasons fans didn't take to her. One, she's so young compared to Victor, she makes him look like a pedophile and two, the woman can't act. Her line delivery is so stiff and wooden.
JM		#11	[-]
Posts: 4 (07/21/08 02:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I cringe whenever I see her. I am glad that Sabrina is being written out. I don't think that Victor really needs to get back with Nikki. He has been with Ashely enough as well. He should have a love interest, that is more his age. Perhaps Y&R could do another crossover with B&B and he can get busy with Jackie.
Peri 1		#12	[-]
Posts: 5609 (07/21/08 09:21) The Marquis de Spa Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Her delivery was not wooden... that was just her personality, her style. I'm sure she talks the same way in real life. And she may have been young, but she is obviously an old soul. She had more maturity in her little finger than shallow dipsh!ts like Victoria & Nikki combined. I'm really disappointed that they're letting her go. The casting department listens to the opinions from a message board here or there? How stupid. Obviously they saw something in her when they hired her, but it's evident they can't think for themselves and are incapable of figuring out what the REAL problems are. The problems are: 1) Boring snotty Nikki and gross David Chow. 2) Boring Lily and the non-chemistry between her and Cane. 3) Jill doesn't have a storyline. 4) They keep hooking Adam up with unworthy trampy girls, neither of them interesting, especially Paul's daughter. 5) Nicholas Newman / Josh Morrow can't act. 6) No one can stand looking at Sharon's stringy hair everyday. 7) Jack's obsession with Victor is old and he & Sharon make a crappy dull couple. 8. Adrian could be interesting but they just don't know what the hell to do with him. 9) Amber needs to be fired. Not from Restless Style, but the entire show. 10) They're wasting Kevin. They need to get him a little crazy again. 11) Michael Baldwin has a nothing storyline so he's forced to ham it up with the little bit of crappy dialog they give him because he's an ego-maniac. 12) Lauren is a bunch of nothing. She used to be such a little powerhouse in the old days. Again, a waste of talent. 13) Brad isn't interesting to watch unless he's romantically involved with someone. He was damn good in the days when Ashley was giving him the runaround and when he was chasing Sharon. 14) Last but not least -- Phyllis is absolutely intolerable! Sabrina fired -- THAT MAKES ME MAD! The powers that be are just like what Sabrina said about Victor's horrible family members -- "They just can't stand to see Victor happy!" I really liked those two together. DAMN! Last Edited By: Peri 1 07/21/08 09:24. Edited 1 times.
Erda		#13	[-]
Posts: 10102 (07/21/08 09:34) The Professor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I couldn't agree more! Sabrina has a maturity to her that the brats will never understand. It figures that as soon as Sabrina's and Victoria's relationship moves into diffcult territory that Victoria wouldn't be able to cope with it. And it really aggravates me that the writers are ending this storyline. We don't have to see S.& V. do the nasty to see the love between them. It's a terrible waste of a storyline. Phyllis as the meddling mommy has me furious. I've been wondering if Morrow wants to be fired from the show. His acting is worse than it's ever been. I'm wondering if it's on purpose. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money. ~ Cree Prophecy ~
Heidi62		#14	[-]
Posts: 9150 (07/21/08 10:00) The Equalizer Our Voice of Reason Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	If TIIC actually took seriously the posts on message boards, Tammin Suresucks (nunotColleen) would have been gone a long damn time ago. I still pray it happens - and soon. Yeah, I was okay with Sabrina, too, even though she is an obstacle to my beloved Nicktor reuniting. I'm okay with Raya Meddine's acting. She is originally from Lebannon and doesn't have a huge amount of acting experience; Y&R is her first really big opportunity in the US. TIIC dumped her because she's been front and center since February pretty much and the ratings have been taking a nosedive since around that time. And she is quite unpopular on the message boards I frequent but worse than that is the romance with Victor - folks are squicked out by it. I personally agree about Lily and Cane or rather "Lame" but inexplicably they are a very popular couple. I fail to see the allure of them. I agree about Heather, too. Although she does seem a little more likable these days since they've actually given her something of a pleasant personality. She has had the most chemistry with Adam but still Vail Bloom's acting is just not very good. Joshua Morrow absolutely can NOT act!!! He's bloody awful; I'm stunned he has remained on this show but I guess good looks trump acting ability. The next time his contract comes up for renewal, he'd better sign that sucker without complaint because he's got a good thing on Y&R. I like the Jack and Victor feud! It's a classic, Y&R staple. I'm sure I'm totally alone in this, but I think that TIIC actually made David Dog Chow more interesting now that his whole world is spiraling out of control. I'm looking forward to the upcoming events that are about to occur. I really love the Adrian Korbel character but he has just about been totally ruined ever since they stupidly recast Colleen with that inept, poor excuse for an actress Tammin Suresucks. That gal had to have employed the use of the casting couch in order to get and keep her job because it's sure as hell not because she's got talent. I really liked that Adrian wasn't the typical soap hunk and thought Eyal Podell (Adrian) and Adrianne Leon (ex-Colleen) really had smoking hot chemistry. I was looking forward to where their romance was going - and then everything was ruined. CBS SID is reporting that Adrian is still on the canvas so I hope that TIIC can salvage this character and give him an interesting storyline. I still think that he and not Cane, should be the real Philip Chancellor. I admit it - I like Amber. Please don't stone me to death. I totally agree with Peri's #10 through #14. Well, it does seem as though TIIC are trying to correct some of the mistakes of the prior regime. They've got some new writers now, including new co-head writer Hogan Sheffer, emmy-winning head writer for ATWT and most recent from DOOL so let's hope he can help get this show back on track again. Nikki & Victor Forever - you got that? Bring Adrianne Leon Back to Y&R! Sign the petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/121950P/petition.html
vicgirl		#15	[-]
Posts: 598 (07/21/08 11:24) Pampered Guest Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Nah, it's time for Sabrina to scoot. I don't want to see Victor sad but he'll get over it. I wonder who would work for him in a relationship? Certainly none of the females on the show now. Peri ITA with your list. It is spot on. If TPTB do read message boards, then I hope they read yours. I just want to add another voice to getting rid of boring Lily and Cane pairing. And they are moving in together? Big Snore! Lily has totally bored down Cane. What happened with him? They originally had him going in a direction that sparked interest and now he's content to play house with Lily? What up with that? Please lose this coupling. "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Dar		#16	[-]
Posts: 6157 (07/22/08 09:06) Finder of Needles in Haystacks Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I pretty much agree with your list Peri...except Phylis. Her and Nick are rather boring these days, but I do like Phylis, she is interesting, intense and just a little crazy. I don't like her playing the meddling mother at all. I could not agree more about JM, his acting is awful, I don't remember him being so bad even a couple years ago...I swear he looking to be let go. He's nice eye candy though...those dimples do me in every time. Lily and Cane ARE the most boring thing going on right now. I wish they'd break them up already. Lily annoys me period...Cane I like, but not with Lily. I admit it too, I like Amber! at least she's interesting....and her own worst enemy. I actually like her and Daniel together too...I was a little annoyed when they hooked them up, I liked them as friends, but as lovers, they are growing on me. I hate Cleo....but if she manages to break up Lily and Cane, she can stay. David Chow is actually getting interesting! I'm enjoying the mystery and am looking forward to the conclusion. I have a feeling he is going to die in the end. Sabrina is growing on me. Didn't like her at first, but I really like the effect she is having on Victor....when he goes all TGVN on his family, she's there to rein him in and makes him see how "ruthless" he's being. I like that about her, and I was actually looking forward to the baby coming. Smile - It's free therapy Last Edited By: Dar 07/23/08 08:48. Edited 1 times.
Peri 1		#17	[-]
Posts: 5610 (07/22/08 04:29) The Marquis de Spa Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks for all your interesting feedbacks to my "List!" Which reminds me, watching yesterday's episode I totally forgot about one of THE biggest problems/snoozefest couples: NEIL AND KAREN! Oh... My... God! Get rid of that Karen and that stupid Mom with her stupid singing kid! WHO CARES! I don't even know their names that's how much I care about them. Karen adds absolutely nothing to the show. And for that matter get rid of Devon too! He's useless. So, lots of people have been "front & center" besides Sabrina, but they decide it's all Sabrina? Idiots! It's been so refreshing to have someone like Sabrina who doesn't have a bitchy bone in her body. That show is overrun by bitches, it's sickening. They need a bit of balance from cramming snotty bitches like Nikki, Victoria, Phyllis, Chloe, Colleen, Sky, Heather, Amber, Jill, Gloria and yes, even Sharon, down our throats. I used to really enjoy watching Sabrina stick up for herself and letting all those idiots have it when they'd give her a hard time. It was refreshing to see someone with that mix of nice/goodness with a tough take-no-crap backbone! I used to like how she'd put Adam in his place too, but not seeming bitchy doing it. They're making a big mistake letting her go. I liked hers and Victor's love story. How they could ever reunite him with that shallow Nikki after Sabrina is preposterous!
Heidi62		#18	[-]
Posts: 9159 (07/22/08 05:15) The Equalizer Our Voice of Reason Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I actually like Karen!!! She seems like the only one in Genoa City who might actually have a funtioning brain cell or two, although that's questionable now that she moved back for Kneel. I wondered if Karen was brought back because Drucilla is going climb up over the embankment she went over in the next few months and now Kneel has to choose who he wants. Uh oh, I like Devon too! But he hasn't been utilized properly at all. I wish they'd give him an interesting storyline; this one with Tyra and Little Orphan Shut the Hell Up ain't it. Why in the world they have this child sing constantly is a mystery to me. Who decided that is what people want to see on Y&R day in and day out? Not just Sabrina but also David Dog Chow. Neither one of these characters have been popular and folks have been begging for them to leave the show practically from their respective debuts. The big drop in ratings since February has really gotten TIIC nervous; Y&R has gone from a 4.0 to a 3.5 in a 6 month period of time - that's really bad and I'm sure William J. Bell is spinning in his grave. I don't know this for a fact but I don't think that they're going to reunite Victor and Nikki right away either. I have a feeling that Nikki will hook up with Paul and Victor will hook up with Ashley. I don't know if you've noticed but Eileen Davidson isn't in B&B's opening credits anymore - there's speculation that she's returning to Y&R. Seems credible since Ashley has nothing to do on B&B and folks seem to want her back on Y&R. Nikki & Victor Forever - you got that? Bring Adrianne Leon Back to Y&R! Sign the petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/121950P/petition.html
vicgirl		#19	[-]
Posts: 602 (07/22/08 05:31) Pampered Guest Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I really liked the way Sabrina looked beyond herself and told Victor that if he didn't more or less cool it with his take no prisoners reg. his kids, he would regret it. Frankly, Vikki and Nick need to be punished but not kicked out of the will. They are his flesh and blood after all, and he will regret it and eventually be heartbroken over it. I thought it was nice that Sabrina was trying to get him to see that. That's about as nice as I can be about Victor's new wife. Nothing against her, just IMO not a good mix. Do we really want to see Neil with anyone besides Drusilla? The real Drusilla? I think not. There was something intangibly wonderful about that character. I don't see how Neil could be interested in dull as dishwater Karen Quite frankly, after Dru left the show the whole Winters clan fell into the black hole of irrelevancy. And you're right Peri, too many b...s on this show. "Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle."
Peri 1		#20	[-]
Posts: 5611 (07/22/08 07:11) The Marquis de Spa Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Black hole of irrelevancy is right, vg! I'd rather they bring back Dru's sister Olivia at least if they've gotta put someone with Neil. Karen's nice and all, but she has no magnetism, no star quality. She's like parsley, take her away and no one would even notice. Heidi, I really can't see Nikki with Paul... at all. I'd rather see her suffer with Chow, than languish with boring Paul. When's the last time he had an interesting storyline? Twenty, or thirty years ago? That's because he's another one who's damn lucky he's even employeed as a working actor. He just serves as the background detective that they need around every once in a while and that's all he's basically good for. And even if it takes them 10 years to reunite Nikki with Victor it will be too soon for me. Her snooty nose in the air looks sicken me. So she pumped some kids out for Victor a lifetime ago, big deal. That love story is long over. I hope Ashley does return just to drive her crazy. One more thing... I'm ecstatic Victor wrote those ingrate brats out of his will. They both deserved that a long time ago... especially that horrible son who basically hates him. How dare he hate on Victor but live on the ranch. So GLAD he finally booted his sorry ass off his property. I also think Victoria's anger and hatred for Sabrina over falling in love with her dad is a little sick, especially the lengths she's taken it to. I was appalled when she could barely let Sabrina hold her baby. You would think she was letting one of the Manson girls hold her baby for heaven's sake!

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