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mcleods99 |
FOR THE LOVE OF PEACE IT HAS GONE ON LONG ENONGH RICK IS NOT RESPONIBLE FOR PHOEBES |
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HE WASN'T DRUNK AND HIGH ON DRUG HE WAS TRYING TO DRIVE AND SHE WAS GOING AT HIM LIKE A LUNATIC AND SHE WASN'T WEARING A SELTBELT THE DA COULD'NT
PROSECUTE HIM BECAUSE HE DONE NOTHING LEGALLY WRONG, NO IF WAS DRUNK OR HIGH IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT ,
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Samantha64 |
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I don't agree that it's not Rick's fault but I do agree that it's gone on long enough.
Pretty lame excuses if you ask me. |
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Logan Loather |
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I see it kinda the same but a lil different Sam.
I truly believe that both Ridge and Stephanie and the rest of the family including Taylor, becuase I've heard her say its Rick's fault too, feel that Rick is too blame for his actions that led up to the accident. I've heard them all except Stephanie say that Rick was driving the car that killed Phoebe, even Baker said it when he showed up to investigate the fire. What has Ridge and Stephanie reeling is not only the fact that Rick pulled all of these schemes before Phoebe died, he continued to scheme and lie and even sabatoge Ridge and Eric's new line for FC... Ridge also bent over backwards and agreed with Brooke not to send Rick off to Paris IF AND ONLY IF Rick agreed not to go anywhere near, Thomas, Steffy or Taylor, but especially Thomas and Steffy, since that promise, Rick has done nothing but go after Steffy with full force, and the gall of that bum to say HE gave Ridge enough time to come around and except him and Steffy is a load of bull, especially when he wasn't supposed to be near her to start with. Rick is destructive, Steph and Ridge can see his destructive behavior and have tried to warn both Eric and Brooke, but neither of them seem to care about Rick getting professional help, instead, Eric thorws the load into Brookes lap, and Brooke, just like she does with her won issues, keeps choosing to sweep Ricks under the rug, all the while telling Ridge that Rick needs help and needs his family, well shes shoving him down all of their throats, but where is the help? Ricks constant manipulations, and now his bedding of Steffy is just making the memory of Phoebe just stick out in Ridges mind, becuase Rick has moved on to his other daughter.......and the only person who was priviledged to the information about what happened in the car was Steffy when Budge told her. so..my bottom line is, no Rick didn't mean to kill Phoebe but she is dead, why? becuase he chose to stick his tongue in her sisters mouth to get back at their father. |
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Samantha64 |
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Yeah, rick didn't set out to purposely kill Phoebe. It was an accident, brought on by Rick's behavior and Phoebe's reaction to it.
But frankly, I haven't seen Rick show any real remorse for Phoebe's loss. If he had ANY, he wouldn't be able to touch her twin. EVER. And oh yes, Mama Brooke's idea of "helping" little Ricky is to give in to everything he wants so he won't throw a tantrum and hurt anyone. Not that Brooke thinks he's all THAT guilty of anything. Heck, he's said he's SORRY, in brooke's mind, that's all you have to do. The thing none of them (ecept Stephanie) seem to understand is that Rick isn't going to be satisfied til Ridge is dead. Rick probably doesn't even realize this himself. So WHY isn't Taylor kicking Brooke and eric's asses for not getting their son into a psycho ward? TAYLOR is a trained psychologist (supposedly) who ought to realize that the presidency of FC and a family group hug is NOT going to fix what's wrong with Rick. |
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beautifula85 |
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I haven't seen Rick really grieve over Phoebe's death either, especially since he was madly in love with her at one point int time. It's so easy
for him to chase and kiss all over Steffy, but it amazes me how he both Steffy and Rick have Phoebe in the back of their heads like she never even existed.
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vicgirl |
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I can understand your frustration Mcleod. But there are so many extinuating circumstances here that there are legitimate arguments for each point of view. Rick
didn't get in the car with Phoebe with the intention to kill her. He repeatedly told her to stop it and tried to fend her off during the drive and she
literally took over the car. However, his actions before that night are what led her to get in the car and cause the confrontation. If their is any justice in
this world, Rick must hold himself accountable for her anger. Then again, Phoebe as a grown woman (if she had lived) must accept accountability for her
actions.
I don't blame Ridge one bit for how he feels. I would be frothing at the mouth too. I don't get Brooke. Brooke, I love you girl but your "little boy" is a screwed up man who is hurting a lot of people and he will continue to do so as long as he knows he has your support. |
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obisgirl |
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Rick made Phoebe angry but yeah, Phoebe alone caused the accident to happen. God, she was scratching and yelling at him and he was trying to drive; she
wasn't even wearing her seat belt. And No, Rick was not drunk or high on drugs.
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Dizzie Lizzie57.survivorsucks |
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I don't think Rick is 100% responsible for Phoebe's death, for instance when she got into his car he could have refused to move until she got out! so
maybe 1% at fault? Rick is one mixed up guy right now! Mommy, Daddy, and maybe Step-Daddy should sit down and talk about getting him some help! Brooke has to
know her son ain't right in the head! OH wait...this is Brooke!
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Samantha64 |
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Welcome to the Spa Dizzie!
I don't know what it's going to take to make Brooke snap out of her stupor and get Rick some actual help. She wants body guards to protect him but, how are they going to protect him from himself? |
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vicgirl |
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Brooke is acting as a mother afraid for her child. She doesn't need to be branded stupid just because she loves him in a way someone wouldn't approve
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Samantha64 |
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To me it's very stupid to stand and watch your kid self destruct just because you're in denial. Brooke's got PLENTY of proof that Rick needs
professional help. She's his mother, she claims to be responsible for him so - let her be responsible and get him under control instead of sneaking
behind Ridge's back, helping Rick get away with his INCREASINGLY DANGEROUS stunts.
Hey, maybe Brooke will get caught in the crossfire next time - wonder who will be Hope and RJ's mommy then? Would Rick even care? |
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vicgirl |
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She is not just standing around in denial. What the heck can she do? Rick is a grown man. It's not like she can say, go to your room until you decide to
behave. She also cannot force him to go to counseling. I think it is very unfair to label her as stupid because one of her kids is acting outrageously. If that
is the case then every single parent in the world is stupid.
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Momsaidso |
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If Brooke had not already experienced this same path with her brother Storm I might agree with you, but the Logan family never taking him to task or getting
him any real help led to tragedy, and now she is doing it again with Rick.
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vicgirl |
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OK so Brooke admits Rick is psycho, then what? Why is she the only mother on this show who gets grief because her child is inappropriate/
I have read on this board more than once disapproval of Steffy. Yet not one word on what a crummy mother Taylor must be. I don't read anything about what a lousy mother Stephanie is when one of her prodigeny goes nuts. But somehow Brooke is fair game for mud slinging.
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Logan Loather |
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OK so Brooke admits Rick is psycho, then what? Why is she the only mother on this show who gets grief because her child is inappropriate/
I have read on this board more than once disapproval of Steffy. Yet not one word on what a crummy mother Taylor must be. I don't read anything about what a lousy mother Stephanie is when one of her prodigeny goes nuts. But somehow Brooke is fair game for mud slinging. that would be the first step of her actually trying to help her son, instead of enabling him, which is what she is doing now. Steffy is not going around manipulating her whole family and destroying company profits, that would be Rick, so where would the comparison come in for Taylor with her daughter? yes, I disapprove of Steffy's mouth, and her choice to be with her uncle, but again, thats no reflection on Taylor or Ridge becuase I see both of them stepping in and trying to show Steffy how wrong this is, there's the difference. My Steph, is in a class by herself, yeah some of her brood does wrong, shes goes to bat for them, but at the same time, she lets them know what an idiot they are for doing such things. Brooke hasn't even come to light about her own issues, so I guess it should be expected that she wouldn't shed light on her grown sons issues, and keep going to bat for him and forgetting that she has 2 young kids at home that need some of that attention shes lashing on to Rick. |
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vicgirl |
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Yeah, Stephanie is in a class by herself - lying and manipulating,
Brooke did tell Rick what he did was wrong. She told him over and over again. I'm sorry, but I don't know how blaming the mother helps the son.
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Logan Loather |
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Yeah, Stephanie is in a class by herself - lying and manipulating,
nope: they are are in that class, so Steph is no by herself Brooke did tell Rick what he did was wrong. She told him over and over again. I'm sorry, but I don't know how blaming the mother helps the son. yeah-she told him what he did was wrong, and still continued to let him manipulate her, if she had stopped him at the paralized lie, he wouldn't have had the chance to do all the other stuff. Brooke could insist on counseling, heck she asked Ridge to do it with them all together, and Ridge refused and told her her son is the one who needs it, and what did she do, still plead with Ridge to leave lil Ricky alone. |
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Momsaidso |
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Creepy "Uncle" Rick chasing after his teenage nieces is disgusting. He's what 15+ years older than girls who are barely legal, its icky even
before you get to the underlying problem, he only wants them to hurt other members of his own family. And I don't care how far they SORAS Steffy it will
always be icky. It was icky when he was slobbering all over Phoebe and it's icky now that he's slobbering all over her twin sister.
I just wonder how twisted TPTB must be to characterize the Rick-Steffy SL as a love story, its the weird uncle that people stop inviting to family gatherings because he can't keep his hands off girls half his age story. |
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vicgirl |
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It's classic Bell. Throw a bunch of stuff out on the floor and see what stinks the worst. In his twisted world view he thinks all of this is a good idea.
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